Property CPOV:Temporal missing.

Published on: 03/11/2016

A property CPOV:PublicOrganisation:Temporal comparable to CPSVAP: PublicService:Temporal or CPSVAP: PublicService:Channel:Availability should be added. Useful where the availability of the PublicService is not specific for the service but for the PublicOrganisation that provides it. Eg a PublicOrganisation has certain opening hours and the opening hours of its services derive from them. This saves needless copying of data from PublicOrganisation to PublicService. Adding weight to this issue is hat there is already a property CPOV:PublicOrganisation:Spatial, so why not a property CPOV:PublicOrganisation:Temporal.






philarcher (not verified)
Tue, 08/11/2016 - 16:46

The spatial property for an organisation is the area over which the PO operates, not its location (address). If we were to include a temporal property analogous to the spatial one, it would mean that the public organisation only had legal force during that period, which is not what you mean.  There is an argument for including opening hours which, like anything else, can be added if so desired. We can add it to the model if the WG so wishes.

Tue, 15/11/2016 - 11:45

I oppose adding openinhours to PublicOrganisation as it represent

[...] a collection of people organized together into a community or other social, commercial or political structure.

Opening hours belong to something physical.

philarcher (not verified)
Tue, 15/11/2016 - 16:57

Sorry, Dieter, I meant adding openingHours to the ContactPoint - I was sloppy in my writing yesterday. You and I are in agreement that a Public Organisation is a Public Organisation all the time, whether the office doors are open or not. 

philarcher (not verified)
Tue, 15/11/2016 - 17:58

Wed, 16/11/2016 - 16:06

I agree that the temporal availability (intended as opening hours) would be a property of a physical structure such as the ContactPoint. However, I find confusing that, in the CPSV, the Spatial and the Temporal properties are intended (respectively) as area of availability and time of availability. I suggest that a name change should be considered in order to avoid interpreting these properties as just spatial or temporal location.  Possible alternative names could be indeed AvailabilityArea and AvailabilityTime.

philarcher (not verified)
Fri, 25/11/2016 - 18:42

Temporal doesn't appear in CPOV so it's out of scope for this discussion. However, opening hours have comprehgensively been included in the final version of the spec.