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Eleni Kargioti
Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on January 10, 2011 at 16:59.
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Discussion related to the W3C XML Schema (XSD) definitions, upon which Europass XML (CV and LP) is based.

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Eleni Kargioti
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on March 11, 2011 at 9:49
(Quality & Reliability, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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We would like to inform you that we have received feedback from SEMIC.eu regarding the XML Schema V2.1. The feedback was generally positive and considered the schema to be of high quality. 

Currently our asset is under public review before it reaches the mature status. Therefore we would like to invite you to participate in the forum discussion and provide us with your valuable feedback. 

The discussion forum for XML V2.1 can be found here:

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/europass_xml_schema_v2-1/forum/all

In case you find problems submitting your comments in that forum, feel free to add your comments here!

The draft XML schema is attached along with examples on how it is used to model the Europass CV and Language Passport.

We are looking forward to your feedback!

Van Coillie Marc
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Van Coillie Marc on February 21, 2012 at 13:30
(, France) - 13/12/2011
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Dear Eleni,

Is it possible to update the link to the discussion forum ?
I'm currently in the process to quickly review the HR-XML application profile, regarding the implementation/status of the 2.1 release is there a date for implementation within the Cedefop online tools ?
Or is it better to still use the 2.0 release even if the xsds are already available online.

Thanks in advance for your reply,

best regards,

Marc

 

Eleni Kargioti
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on February 21, 2012 at 14:05
(Quality & Reliability, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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Dear Marc,

Thank you for noticing this, we forgot to update the link which was automatically migrated from the SEMIC.eu platform. Please, feel free to post any comment in the various discussion forums at the Europass XML v2.1 Semantic Asset page.

According to the timeplan, v2.1 might actually never be implemented within the online tools, as we will directly jumb to version 3.0, which will be supported by the new revamped CV editor. The new CV editor won't be launched until the end of 2012, however the works on the new XML towards v3.0 will begin shortly, even next week. 

That said, if you still want to work on the HR-XML application profile, I would recommend that you devoted some effort on supporting HR-XML v3.2. If a conversion between Europass v2.0 and HR-XML v3.2 is available, we could already advertise it on Europass website. It would also be helpful to work on an application profile based on Europass v2.1, bearing in mind however that this version will be extended to achieve version 3.0.

Kind regards, Eleni

Van Coillie Marc
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Van Coillie Marc on February 21, 2012 at 14:53
(, France) - 13/12/2011
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Thanks for these meaningful information

Supporting HR-XML v3.2 in the application profile is quite easy to achieve as it already support v3.0 and there is not really changes between them (mainly the namespace or even the link to the xsd) as far as I remember. The cross transformation XSLs (europass v2.0 to hr-xml candidate v3.0) are already build. So I could look at this update if it make sense during next week. One of the issue is to really know which release of the HR-XML candidate specs (v2.5, 3.0, 3.2?) is mostly supported by HR solution or online services providers... Anyway using the last one is still a good marketing/communication strategy.

Regarding the support of the europass 2.1 schema as far as I've looked it is not so complex too, the main issue is again more a communication one: which status to give to this new release as it is not supported yet (and won't be) by any of your online tools. May it would be better to already focus to the Europass v3.0 and look at the issues to define better interoperability with other projects such as the Inloc one (Integrating Learning Outcomes and Competences http://wiki.teria.no/display/inloc/Home) in which I'm involve with other experts (such as Cleo Sgouropoulou) within the CEN/ISSS WS/LT.

The HR-XML consortium has also launched a new working group (HR-XML Lightweight Recruiting) which looking at JSON support in order to ease recruitment process for both candidates and recruiters using mobile devices. One of the main use case is a new simplified candidate application process and profile which could be a good opportunity to converge both Cedefop Europass and HR-XML works.

Best regards, Marc

Eleni Kargioti
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on February 21, 2012 at 15:12
(Quality & Reliability, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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This is indeed very interesting information.

We plan to make public the process of developing Europass XML v3.0, so as soon as we have the first draft we will submit it in the Joinup platform and invite comments from the community of experts. So, this will allow you to get involved and also influence interoperability with other projects.

As far as JSON is concerned, Europass already defines a JSON schema, which is actually based on Europass XML v2.0. We plan to continue supporting the JSON, as it might also be heavily used by the revamped CV editor. So, it would be very interesting to monitor the works of  HR-XML in this are. Will you be participating in the working group? If yes, I would appreciate it if you could come back with comments on the works.

Kind regards, Eleni

Robert Peres
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Robert Peres on February 21, 2012 at 15:35
(Cyber World Uk Ltd, United Kingdom) - 21/02/2012
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i cant find the The draft XML schema  attached along with examples on how it is used to model the Europass CV and Language Passport.

Van Coillie Marc
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Van Coillie Marc on February 21, 2012 at 16:04
(, France) - 13/12/2011
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Dear Robert,

you could download it from here:

http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/europass_xml_schema_v2-1/release/100

This is the last release I know so far.

For online xsd validation or namespace link the entry point is here:

http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/xml/EuropassSchema_V2.1.xsd

Best regards,

Marc

Eleni Kargioti
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on February 21, 2012 at 16:05
(Quality & Reliability, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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Dear Robert,

You may find the files of Europass XML Schema v2.1 in the page of the Semantic asset here (https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/europass_xml_schema_v2-1/release/all)

If you are interested in the current online XML (v2.0) you may also find it in the Europass Web site, the section of XML resources (http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/en/resources/for-developers/xml)

Hope this helps,

Eleni

Van Coillie Marc
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Van Coillie Marc on February 21, 2012 at 16:25
(, France) - 13/12/2011
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Dear Eleni,

I'm still in close contact with the HR-XML consortium and I already send them links and information related to your JSON schema and Europass CV usage (using the statistics pdf info you are providing from the Europass website). I'm confident that they would take it into consideration. Up to now the candidate JSON schema description has not started yet, but they might look at a JSON schema more closer to the Candidate XSD schema rather than the Europass one.

Anyway for better interaction and closer work in this area I could put you directly in contact with the HR-XML board (both Kim Bartkus, Director of Standards and Certifications for HR-XML and Romuald Restoud, President and Chairman of the HR-XML Board). May be a good process could be an official EU liaison with the HR-XML Board such liaison is not yet define within the CEN/ISSS but I'm looking in this direction as well but it may imply to pay the annual membership fee which is not possible under our CEN/ISSS WS LT umbrella.

Best regards,

Marc

Eleni Kargioti
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Eleni Kargioti on February 21, 2012 at 17:29
(Quality & Reliability, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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Of course, it is only natural that they will develop the JSON to be close to the Candidate XML. However many thanks on putting me in contact with HR-XML, I will inform the colleagues at Cedefop accordingly.

Kind regards, Eleni

Dimitris Zavaliadis
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Dimitris Zavaliadis on February 21, 2012 at 17:57
(Q&R/CEDEFOP, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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Hi there,

Marc, do you happen to be aware of any resources emphasising the use and adoption of HR-XML in the "real" world? Perhaps case studies, companies, applicant tracking applications, etc. that make use of it?

I might be a little bit out of context here, but still would be most grateful if you could direct us to any relevant resources.

Many thanks,

Dimitris

Van Coillie Marc
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Van Coillie Marc on February 22, 2012 at 12:23
(, France) - 13/12/2011
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Hi Dimitris,

You request is not out of context!

That's something quite hard to know (figures related to HR-XML usage in real world). What I know is that many HR solutions and services are supporting HR-XML specifications, even if not certified nor HR-XML member.

But quite frankly despite that heavy support, as the HR-XML specifications are quite large in terms of functionalities (lots of elements) there is no actual consensus around a common candidate profile (and depending of the solutions they are not all supporting the same release of the specifications). As I discuss already with solution providers some of them have only done the implementation for marketing purpose and not really to establish a real interoperable market (which by the way lowerage consulting business). 

That's why I've worked around the Europass HR-XML application profile, in order to submit a common profile based on an independant model and not on a solution specific use case (the Europass one) that has a great visibility and could be use in terms of marketing/lobbying with stakeholders but I must admit that I failed for its adoption within the HR-XML community. Anyway the good point is that it helps me to be known in this community and yours and to try to merge common interest.

Hope that's help even if I got for the moment no concrete response, I will continue to look for it.
Best regards,

Marc

Dimitris Zavaliadis
Re: Europass XML Schema
Posted by Dimitris Zavaliadis on February 22, 2012 at 17:11
(Q&R/CEDEFOP, Europe) - 13/12/2011
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for your prompt reply, that's very helpful information, I really appreciate it.

Let us know if/when you have further news to share.

Best regards,

Dimitris